1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:09,240 [Applause] 3 00:00:14,110 --> 00:00:12,170 I'm Tom dear from the University of 4 00:00:16,660 --> 00:00:14,120 Arkansas and I'd like to thank you all 5 00:00:19,450 --> 00:00:16,670 for coming and thank the organizers for 6 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:19,460 the opportunity to present the work 7 00:00:25,390 --> 00:00:22,160 going on in our lab so sulfur specific 8 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:25,400 maturation of nitrogenous in a 9 00:00:31,210 --> 00:00:29,599 methanogens I've got some to be pretty 10 00:00:32,679 --> 00:00:31,220 exciting results to share with you but 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:32,689 first I want to go through a little bit 12 00:00:39,010 --> 00:00:36,410 of background so Earth's geochemistry 13 00:00:43,180 --> 00:00:39,020 has shifted pretty radically over 14 00:00:47,230 --> 00:00:43,190 geologic time early on we think there 15 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:47,240 were locally abundant sources of reduced 16 00:00:55,710 --> 00:00:52,510 iron and sulfide and that ancient cells 17 00:00:58,060 --> 00:00:55,720 broadly made use of these and 18 00:01:00,460 --> 00:00:58,070 incorporating clusters into iron sulfur 19 00:01:03,490 --> 00:01:00,470 proteins to carry out important 20 00:01:06,550 --> 00:01:03,500 reactions for life and with the rise of 21 00:01:09,310 --> 00:01:06,560 atmospheric oxygen these became much 22 00:01:12,370 --> 00:01:09,320 less attractive cofactors so where 23 00:01:15,940 --> 00:01:12,380 possible Arabs have minimised their use 24 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:15,950 but modern anaerobes particularly strict 25 00:01:20,710 --> 00:01:18,380 Anna ropes like methanogens still make 26 00:01:23,110 --> 00:01:20,720 use of loads of higher and sulfur 27 00:01:26,020 --> 00:01:23,120 proteins and so they sort of represent a 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:26,030 window into the past you know get some 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:35,830 methanogens are also extremely important 30 00:01:41,230 --> 00:01:38,690 in studying the nitrogen cycle thanks to 31 00:01:44,649 --> 00:01:41,240 some really great work by eric boyd and 32 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:44,659 john peters and many others there's good 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:47,330 evidence that the nitrogenase enzyme 34 00:01:53,649 --> 00:01:49,610 that's responsible for the biological 35 00:01:57,969 --> 00:01:53,659 fixation of dinitrogen first arose in 36 00:02:01,990 --> 00:01:57,979 methanogens so a broad outline of the 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:02,000 way that the the reaction progresses 38 00:02:07,919 --> 00:02:05,570 dinitrogen is reduced to ammonia at the 39 00:02:12,460 --> 00:02:07,929 expense of reducing equivalents and 40 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:12,470 quite a bit of energy and there are iron 41 00:02:18,850 --> 00:02:15,470 sulfur clusters some somewhat bizarre 42 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:18,860 ones compared to the broad range of iron 43 00:02:23,940 --> 00:02:21,910 sulfur proteins that are required 44 00:02:28,410 --> 00:02:23,950 to carry this out and then methanogens 45 00:02:31,590 --> 00:02:28,420 notably code for a lot of other iron 46 00:02:34,140 --> 00:02:31,600 sulfur proteins that are of interest to 47 00:02:37,130 --> 00:02:34,150 astrobiologists and people studying 48 00:02:39,170 --> 00:02:37,140 early Earth including Farah dachshunds 49 00:02:43,350 --> 00:02:39,180 hydrogenase and carbon monoxide 50 00:02:45,090 --> 00:02:43,360 dehydrogenase but given that all of 51 00:02:46,890 --> 00:02:45,100 these iron sulfur clusters are needed in 52 00:02:48,330 --> 00:02:46,900 methanogens we know little to nothing 53 00:02:54,420 --> 00:02:48,340 about how they're actually being 54 00:02:56,910 --> 00:02:54,430 assembled so what we do know about iron 55 00:03:01,710 --> 00:02:56,920 sulfur cluster biogenesis we mostly know 56 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:01,720 from bacteria and eukaryotes so there 57 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:04,930 are three described systems with some 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:07,180 commonalities running through them 59 00:03:11,610 --> 00:03:09,250 the first system described was actually 60 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:11,620 the NIF system this is specific for 61 00:03:19,230 --> 00:03:14,800 nitrogenase described in his Oda dr. van 62 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:19,240 LAN di next described was the is C or 63 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:22,900 ystem and so this is quite similar to 64 00:03:28,890 --> 00:03:26,160 NIF but more widely distributed among 65 00:03:31,170 --> 00:03:28,900 bacteria and the mitochondria of 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:31,180 eukaryotes this is more of a 67 00:03:35,580 --> 00:03:33,370 housekeeping system for general iron 68 00:03:38,580 --> 00:03:35,590 sulfur cluster biogenesis and then last 69 00:03:41,670 --> 00:03:38,590 described was the sough system and this 70 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:41,680 is especially important today in strict 71 00:03:47,730 --> 00:03:44,530 anaerobes strict anaerobic bacteria and 72 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:47,740 in the chloroplasts of plants common to 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:51,310 all three systems is the overall 74 00:03:57,060 --> 00:03:54,850 reaction scheme which is a cysteine d 75 00:04:01,140 --> 00:03:57,070 sulfurous to take sulfur from cysteine 76 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:01,150 and then to help assemble with some iron 77 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:03,130 coming from somewhere it varies 78 00:04:07,830 --> 00:04:05,040 depending on the organism in the system 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:07,840 to assemble a cluster on a scaffold 80 00:04:15,420 --> 00:04:12,250 protein so for NIF and ISC the cysteine 81 00:04:18,510 --> 00:04:15,430 t sulfur aces are the S proteins the u 82 00:04:19,860 --> 00:04:18,520 proteins of the scaffolds and then from 83 00:04:22,260 --> 00:04:19,870 the scaffold the cluster can be handed 84 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:22,270 off to a target able protein the 85 00:04:27,900 --> 00:04:25,540 subsystem works the same way in it's 86 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:27,910 been described in bacteria but the 87 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:31,690 scaffold is a multi mer of B C or B C 88 00:04:38,879 --> 00:04:35,620 and D soft proteins but all of 89 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:38,889 have in common the facts that free iron 90 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:40,960 and sulfide are broadly toxic to most 91 00:04:47,129 --> 00:04:43,840 cells so controlled biogenesis is 92 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:47,139 required and for all three of these 93 00:04:52,260 --> 00:04:49,360 systems as described everything kind of 94 00:04:57,530 --> 00:04:52,270 runs through cysteine cysteine is the 95 00:05:00,110 --> 00:04:57,540 sulfur donor now methanogens 96 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:00,120 categorically seem to lack an if type 97 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:03,370 dedicated biogenesis system for 98 00:05:08,219 --> 00:05:05,680 nitrogenase which is sort of surprising 99 00:05:10,350 --> 00:05:08,229 because you can find the the core 100 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:10,360 nitrogenous genes in members of all 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:13,840 seven orders of extant methanogens the 102 00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:17,050 two deeply rooted orders are somewhat 103 00:05:22,379 --> 00:05:19,600 metabolically restricted to co2 104 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:22,389 reduction these do not use cysteine as a 105 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:24,400 soul sulfur source when they're growing 106 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:26,800 and there actually is some evidence 107 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:29,289 showing that inorganic sulfide is the 108 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:31,330 direct donor for iron sulfur clusters so 109 00:05:34,830 --> 00:05:33,430 that flies in the face of what I just 110 00:05:40,379 --> 00:05:34,840 showed you for everything we know from 111 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:40,389 bacteria and eukaryotes so they are not 112 00:05:46,260 --> 00:05:42,010 predicted to code for a cysteine sulfur 113 00:05:47,550 --> 00:05:46,270 race just the course of proteins and 114 00:05:48,779 --> 00:05:47,560 I'll go ahead and tell you now those 115 00:05:50,909 --> 00:05:48,789 soft proteins seem like they're 116 00:05:54,270 --> 00:05:50,919 universally conserved in methanogens and 117 00:05:57,779 --> 00:05:54,280 even more broadly in archaea so the five 118 00:06:01,589 --> 00:05:57,789 later evolving orders of methanogens so 119 00:06:03,810 --> 00:06:01,599 also have those soft core proteins many 120 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:03,820 of them also appear to have the core 121 00:06:10,379 --> 00:06:07,840 misc system as well these are more 122 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:10,389 flexible they some of them are capable 123 00:06:17,490 --> 00:06:14,310 of multiple methanogenesis pathways and 124 00:06:19,230 --> 00:06:17,500 have briefly been reported several of 125 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:19,240 them to be able to grow on cysteine or 126 00:06:24,689 --> 00:06:22,210 sulfide as a sole sulfur source and for 127 00:06:27,210 --> 00:06:24,699 some of them even more compounds than 128 00:06:30,450 --> 00:06:27,220 that in our lab we mainly work with 129 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:30,460 members of the genus Mathias Arsena 130 00:06:33,659 --> 00:06:32,770 order matheno sarsen Allie's and I'm 131 00:06:37,589 --> 00:06:33,669 gonna tell you a little bit more about 132 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:37,599 the one that we love the most next so 133 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:39,970 matheno SAR saina heceta for ends or 134 00:06:44,850 --> 00:06:41,410 asset difference depending on who you're 135 00:06:47,580 --> 00:06:44,860 talking to is a metal metabolically 136 00:06:48,969 --> 00:06:47,590 flexible model meth antigen it's a great 137 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:48,979 model system 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:51,289 for one thing there's a strong genetic 139 00:06:59,409 --> 00:06:53,810 system that's been developed so that we 140 00:07:01,749 --> 00:06:59,419 can manipulate the genome and also it 141 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:01,759 just has lots of copies of everything so 142 00:07:06,730 --> 00:07:03,919 there are as many as maybe three copies 143 00:07:11,290 --> 00:07:06,740 of the ISC system two copies of the 144 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:11,300 subsystem and this is sort of unusual if 145 00:07:15,790 --> 00:07:14,210 you look in bacteria to have many copies 146 00:07:18,339 --> 00:07:15,800 of things but it looks like it's not the 147 00:07:22,179 --> 00:07:18,349 only method of SARS on a species that 148 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:22,189 has this and we can confirm that it can 149 00:07:26,709 --> 00:07:24,770 grow on cysteine or sulfide or a 150 00:07:29,529 --> 00:07:26,719 combination of the two sulfur sources 151 00:07:33,070 --> 00:07:29,539 and does just fine 152 00:07:35,529 --> 00:07:33,080 it also appears to have all three known 153 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:35,539 versions of nitrogenous molybdenum 154 00:07:41,559 --> 00:07:38,770 vanadium and the iron only nitrogenase 155 00:07:44,860 --> 00:07:41,569 so the molybdenum nitrogenase is the one 156 00:07:47,170 --> 00:07:44,870 you find in all desert ropes the 157 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:47,180 vanadium and iron only nitrogenases are 158 00:07:51,179 --> 00:07:49,310 the alternative nitrogenases and i'm not 159 00:07:53,679 --> 00:07:51,189 going to talk any more about them today 160 00:07:58,079 --> 00:07:53,689 so from here forward I'll be talking 161 00:08:03,339 --> 00:07:58,089 about the molybdenum nitrogenase and I 162 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:03,349 started first looking at the is c2 gene 163 00:08:09,070 --> 00:08:05,750 cluster these are the proteins that have 164 00:08:11,619 --> 00:08:09,080 been detected at the highest levels most 165 00:08:13,559 --> 00:08:11,629 consistently in proteomic studies of a 166 00:08:17,889 --> 00:08:13,569 messy divorce 167 00:08:19,929 --> 00:08:17,899 so I briefly I cloned the two core 168 00:08:23,619 --> 00:08:19,939 components the cysteine d sulphurous and 169 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:23,629 the scaffold proteins s2 and u 2 into e 170 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:26,240 coli overexpressed purified to 171 00:08:33,639 --> 00:08:29,810 homogeneity and i did the same for a 172 00:08:35,949 --> 00:08:33,649 massive runs as a Cana tastes just to 173 00:08:39,699 --> 00:08:35,959 have a physiologically relevant target 174 00:08:42,579 --> 00:08:39,709 protein to load cluster into so we can 175 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:42,589 build cluster on the scaffold you 176 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:46,430 protein using the S protein and then 177 00:08:52,509 --> 00:08:48,410 incubated with April a Cana tastes and 178 00:08:55,180 --> 00:08:52,519 monitor for activity and what we see is 179 00:08:56,490 --> 00:08:55,190 we only get robust activation of April 180 00:09:00,250 --> 00:08:56,500 that kind of taste when it's being 181 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:00,260 incubated with cluster loaded scaffold 182 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:04,010 so on its own there's basically no act 183 00:09:09,070 --> 00:09:06,100 and if we incubate it with equivalent 184 00:09:11,410 --> 00:09:09,080 amounts of iron and sulfide in a 185 00:09:14,530 --> 00:09:11,420 reducing environment to what would be 186 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:14,540 found on the scaffold we basically have 187 00:09:18,550 --> 00:09:17,000 no activity again so in vitro this looks 188 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:18,560 like a bonafide iron sulfur cluster 189 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:22,640 biogenesis system so we can knock out 190 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:25,360 these genes and we did that using 191 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:27,890 essentially standard techniques and what 192 00:09:34,060 --> 00:09:30,910 we see is moderately impaired growth 193 00:09:35,860 --> 00:09:34,070 when this mutant has grown with cysteine 194 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:35,870 as the sole sulfur source there's a 195 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:37,250 little bit of variability from 196 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:39,440 experiment to experiment but 197 00:09:47,050 --> 00:09:42,760 consistently the mutant prefers sulfide 198 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:47,060 we can actually a say for cysteine T 199 00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:48,890 sulfurous activity in sulfur eli sites 200 00:09:53,610 --> 00:09:51,440 and when we do that we see significantly 201 00:09:56,260 --> 00:09:53,620 reduced cysteine d sulphureus activity 202 00:09:58,540 --> 00:09:56,270 and the mutant compared to the parent 203 00:10:04,870 --> 00:09:58,550 regardless of what Sulphurs horse the 204 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:04,880 cells groove on so we see what we think 205 00:10:09,570 --> 00:10:06,860 is some altered sulfur metabolism 206 00:10:12,670 --> 00:10:09,580 although there's no gross cluster 207 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:12,680 assembly defect so if we just look at 208 00:10:19,180 --> 00:10:16,330 acid labile sulfide to see how much 209 00:10:20,980 --> 00:10:19,190 cluster content there is and the mutant 210 00:10:22,830 --> 00:10:20,990 versus the parent there's no significant 211 00:10:26,170 --> 00:10:22,840 difference regardless of sulfur source 212 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:26,180 when we look at sulfate sulfur so this 213 00:10:29,620 --> 00:10:27,710 is mechanistically important for the 214 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:29,630 cysteine ki sulfurous it's sort of how 215 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:31,910 it works and this is also has 216 00:10:36,490 --> 00:10:33,710 implications for the sulfur relay system 217 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:36,500 in sulfur metabolism when we look at 218 00:10:40,290 --> 00:10:39,110 sulfate and sulfur we see a significant 219 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:40,300 reduction 220 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:43,220 anytime cysteine is present as a sulfur 221 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:46,880 source so that's sort of an interesting 222 00:10:51,490 --> 00:10:49,270 thing to see in combination with 223 00:10:55,450 --> 00:10:51,500 basically no difference in cluster 224 00:10:57,820 --> 00:10:55,460 content so switching back to the 225 00:11:00,340 --> 00:10:57,830 wild-type real fast a massive difference 226 00:11:02,230 --> 00:11:00,350 can fix nitrogen regardless of what it's 227 00:11:05,490 --> 00:11:02,240 using as a sulfur source cysteine versus 228 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:05,500 sulfide maybe somewhat surprisingly 229 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:08,810 neither cysteine nor alanine which is 230 00:11:14,950 --> 00:11:11,480 the sort of side product of 16t sulfur 231 00:11:16,750 --> 00:11:14,960 ace neither one of these amino acids 232 00:11:21,310 --> 00:11:16,760 by having an amino group can serve as a 233 00:11:24,460 --> 00:11:21,320 nitrogen source for in assitive wrens so 234 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:24,470 when we grow under nitrogen replete 235 00:11:29,140 --> 00:11:27,770 conditions or under nitrogen fixing 236 00:11:31,150 --> 00:11:29,150 conditions where there's no ammonium 237 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:31,160 present there doesn't seem to be a huge 238 00:11:37,420 --> 00:11:33,680 difference our preference for sulfur 239 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:37,430 source and when we do a Western blot and 240 00:11:42,490 --> 00:11:40,010 go looking for the catalytic subunit one 241 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:42,500 of catalytic subunits of the molybdenum 242 00:11:49,450 --> 00:11:45,770 nitrogenase we see it show up only when 243 00:11:51,790 --> 00:11:49,460 ammonium is absent and it's being 244 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:51,800 produced abundantly whether cysteine or 245 00:11:59,610 --> 00:11:55,250 sulfide is the sulfur source so the 246 00:12:01,930 --> 00:11:59,620 mutant strain deleted of ISC 2 when we 247 00:12:04,660 --> 00:12:01,940 grow it under nitrogen fixing conditions 248 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:04,670 with sulfide as a sulfur source there is 249 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:08,510 no phenotype whatsoever however if we 250 00:12:15,070 --> 00:12:11,260 try growing it with cysteine there is a 251 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:15,080 pronounced growth defect again that 252 00:12:18,610 --> 00:12:17,060 varies somewhat from experiment to 253 00:12:22,090 --> 00:12:18,620 experiment this is probably the most 254 00:12:25,210 --> 00:12:22,100 severe iteration of it that we've seen 255 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:25,220 but there is a strong strong preference 256 00:12:31,650 --> 00:12:28,310 for growth with sulfide as the sulfur 257 00:12:36,610 --> 00:12:31,660 source under nitrogen fixing conditions 258 00:12:40,690 --> 00:12:36,620 especially with this mutant so that has 259 00:12:43,420 --> 00:12:40,700 led us to a proposed model of cluster 260 00:12:46,150 --> 00:12:43,430 biogenesis in the methanogens M assitive 261 00:12:50,950 --> 00:12:46,160 runs in which cysteine is routed through 262 00:12:54,970 --> 00:12:50,960 the ISC system and then can be used to 263 00:12:58,420 --> 00:12:54,980 load cluster into proteins as needed and 264 00:13:02,680 --> 00:12:58,430 that inorganic sulfide may be going 265 00:13:05,950 --> 00:13:02,690 through perhaps a sort of primordial 266 00:13:07,330 --> 00:13:05,960 subsystem because these subsystems I 267 00:13:10,660 --> 00:13:07,340 told you they're pretty universal in 268 00:13:12,970 --> 00:13:10,670 archaea but they're never really paired 269 00:13:16,330 --> 00:13:12,980 with a suffice cysteine to sulphurous so 270 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:16,340 it seems like the subsystem is maybe 271 00:13:23,950 --> 00:13:20,930 primordial in archaea and and not really 272 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:23,960 geared towards using cysteine so the 273 00:13:27,130 --> 00:13:25,370 results that i've showed are consistent 274 00:13:27,530 --> 00:13:27,140 we are still being able to load cluster 275 00:13:35,230 --> 00:13:27,540 in 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:35,240 but there is a serious problem once we 277 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:39,810 cut off the ISE system and that specific 278 00:13:45,499 --> 00:13:42,180 is c2 is C 1 and is C 3 are still 279 00:13:50,990 --> 00:13:45,509 present but apparently they are not able 280 00:13:53,059 --> 00:13:51,000 to provide for normal maturation of the 281 00:13:57,290 --> 00:13:53,069 molybdenum molybdenum nitrogenase when 282 00:14:01,249 --> 00:13:57,300 cysteine is the sulfur source and so I'd 283 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:01,259 like to thank my advisor P I dam Lesnar 284 00:14:05,449 --> 00:14:03,690 other members of the lesner lab our 285 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:05,459 collaborator ever doin who's done some 286 00:14:09,499 --> 00:14:07,730 great biophysical characterization of 287 00:14:11,499 --> 00:14:09,509 proteins for us that I didn't really 288 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:11,509 have time to share with you today and 289 00:14:16,819 --> 00:14:14,880 then also thank the funding agencies for 290 00:14:22,370 --> 00:14:16,829 their generosity and with that I'll take 291 00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,380 any questions thanks Thomas you have 292 00:14:27,889 --> 00:14:24,959 time for a few questions yeah that was 293 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:27,899 really nice he mentioned that your 294 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:31,500 bacterium has all three different types 295 00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:35,610 of nitrogenases i didn't can't perhaps 296 00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:38,639 already said this but are you looking at 297 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:41,279 a deleted version that only has one at a 298 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:43,290 time or have you tried building such a 299 00:14:48,350 --> 00:14:46,290 thing - I see whether some of them might 300 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:48,360 be more affected by the by the various 301 00:14:52,780 --> 00:14:49,699 conditions that you've been describing 302 00:14:56,509 --> 00:14:52,790 we are looking into that we don't have 303 00:14:59,059 --> 00:14:56,519 anything where we have actually deleted 304 00:15:01,639 --> 00:14:59,069 the nitrogenase but it's possible to 305 00:15:04,250 --> 00:15:01,649 grow under conditions where you don't 306 00:15:07,030 --> 00:15:04,260 give them any molybdenum and then they 307 00:15:11,939 --> 00:15:07,040 have to use alternative nitrogenases so 308 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:14,009 I think we have time for other questions 309 00:15:19,499 --> 00:15:16,689 if there are any thanks for the great 310 00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:19,509 talk and the data were coming pretty 311 00:15:23,549 --> 00:15:21,519 quickly so I'm sorry if I oh sure miss 312 00:15:27,090 --> 00:15:23,559 something but it seems like in the is 313 00:15:30,389 --> 00:15:27,100 situ mutant eat undergrowth with 314 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:30,399 sulphide you had and maybe even an 315 00:15:35,369 --> 00:15:32,350 increased amount of sulphate sulphur and 316 00:15:38,819 --> 00:15:35,379 you also saw some sort of ISC to like 317 00:15:41,059 --> 00:15:38,829 activity does that suggest there's 318 00:15:44,329 --> 00:15:41,069 another group of proteins that are 319 00:15:47,309 --> 00:15:44,339 accomplishing this function yes 320 00:15:51,479 --> 00:15:47,319 certainly for the second part of your 321 00:15:54,199 --> 00:15:51,489 question the most parsimonious 322 00:15:57,809 --> 00:15:54,209 explanation would be those other is see 323 00:16:03,619 --> 00:15:57,819 clusters have bonafide cysteine t sulfur 324 00:16:06,239 --> 00:16:03,629 races a more complicated answer would be 325 00:16:08,309 --> 00:16:06,249 in the methanogens that we don't really 326 00:16:10,409 --> 00:16:08,319 work with and that are predicted not to 327 00:16:11,819 --> 00:16:10,419 have cysteine to sulfur ace if you crack 328 00:16:15,359 --> 00:16:11,829 them open and look for assisting to self 329 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:15,369 race activity you'll find it so we 330 00:16:19,169 --> 00:16:16,480 probably don't know everything that's 331 00:16:20,999 --> 00:16:19,179 going on I think it would be really 332 00:16:23,669 --> 00:16:21,009 great to look at that latter at class of 333 00:16:29,069 --> 00:16:23,679 methanogens with these assays mm-hmm 334 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:29,079 it's really exciting Thank You Thomas 335 00:16:36,479 --> 00:16:32,230 all right thanks so our next speaker 336 00:16:38,249 --> 00:16:36,489 Miriam accessibility is she is around so 337 00:16:39,780 --> 00:16:38,259 it doesn't look like she might have made 338 00:16:43,679 --> 00:16:39,790 it to the conference so I apologize 339 00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:43,689 after that talk isn't gonna be coming up 340 00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:45,040 so we have a few minutes if there's 341 00:16:50,329 --> 00:16:48,100 other questions or waiting for the next 342 00:16:52,470 --> 00:16:50,339 talk for the speakers that have already 343 00:16:59,000 --> 00:16:52,480 presented happy to field a few questions 344 00:17:08,130 --> 00:17:04,020 Chirk Shawn I have a question for you 345 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:08,140 yeah go home before the oxygenation of 346 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:10,330 the atmosphere what would be the source 347 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:13,930 of sulfite I I kind of thought that it 348 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:17,350 went to either sulfate or sulfide but is 349 00:17:22,590 --> 00:17:20,050 there a sulfite component and what we 350 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:22,600 expect to be coming out from volcanoes 351 00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:25,600 and then going into the ocean yeah so I 352 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:28,390 won't bring it up but you know sulfur 353 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:30,370 dioxide so I mentioned the disproportion 354 00:17:34,410 --> 00:17:31,810 ation reaction where it goes to sulfate 355 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:34,420 as well as hydrogen sulfide but that's 356 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:35,650 at higher temperatures at lower 357 00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:37,090 temperatures that can just hydrate 358 00:17:43,050 --> 00:17:40,480 it's a sulfuric acid as well with water 359 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:43,060 and so that can specie 8 depending on 360 00:17:49,980 --> 00:17:47,200 you know the pH it could be at lower pH 361 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:49,990 sulfur dioxide or sulfuric acid at high 362 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:51,790 rpm I so fight already 363 00:17:55,650 --> 00:17:54,490 still higher pH sulfite so there's a 364 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:55,660 potential that you could have sulfite 365 00:18:01,130 --> 00:17:58,570 there and without oxygen or ferric iron 366 00:18:03,630 --> 00:18:01,140 present it could potentially be stable 367 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:03,640 and I had a diagram on an extra slide 368 00:18:18,510 --> 00:18:10,470 sure I think there's a question in the 369 00:18:25,650 --> 00:18:21,660 I was so we know that for example in eco 370 00:18:28,830 --> 00:18:25,660 light the soft system is assigned for 371 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:28,840 the de novo cluster synthesis compared 372 00:18:36,660 --> 00:18:33,370 to IOC which is basically for repair 373 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:36,670 when one iron falls off you just use ISC 374 00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:40,330 to put that one on and back and like in 375 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:43,630 the lab for example we we put our enzyme 376 00:18:51,890 --> 00:18:48,690 is C D G G for reduction and iron and it 377 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:51,900 basically repairs the cluster without 378 00:18:58,110 --> 00:18:55,360 the need for anything else so is there 379 00:19:02,340 --> 00:18:58,120 anything similar like these two jobs for 380 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:02,350 like are the two in your box doing the 381 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:04,930 same thing or they are all like doing 382 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:10,120 just then although synthesis not 383 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:12,490 entirely short so the the very first 384 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:15,850 part of what you were saying that the 385 00:19:20,580 --> 00:19:18,850 different jobs different roles for ISC 386 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:20,590 and stuff and E coli yep 387 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:24,760 so my understanding is that is C is that 388 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:29,530 the general system and stuff is more 389 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:32,710 expressed if there is oxidative stress 390 00:19:40,830 --> 00:19:36,490 or a lack of iron is that the other way 391 00:19:43,350 --> 00:19:40,840 round but yeah okay yeah I was just 392 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:43,360 wondering if that's the case here or 393 00:19:47,340 --> 00:19:45,250 they are just like two systems doing 394 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:47,350 exactly the same job probably not doing 395 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:51,760 exactly the same job so if you were 396 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:54,370 talking about a little bit of oxidative 397 00:19:57,540 --> 00:19:55,150 stress 398 00:20:01,580 --> 00:19:57,550 we're like one iron has fallen out of 399 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:01,590 the cluster then yeah I would guess that 400 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:05,110 probably either one could could handle 401 00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:08,530 that kind of repair but well and for 402 00:20:12,660 --> 00:20:09,790 instance with the connotates if you 403 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:12,670 don't really make it a Poe and fully 404 00:20:16,890 --> 00:20:14,410 strip it out usually what's happening is 405 00:20:19,010 --> 00:20:16,900 one irons being lost and you can 406 00:20:22,399 --> 00:20:19,020 reactivate it like pretty easily just by 407 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,409 incubation with DDT 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:24,240 so yeah that probably doesn't answer